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SeanO Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 538	Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Bashring/Front mech setup Hi, Just put a bashring onto the Orange 5 today and set the front mech up roughly. To get the correct height does it just need to clear the bash? On a 3 ring setup I'd normally just line it up 2mm above the big ring. Its got 22/36 chainrings with ethirteen supercharger bash. Any tips would be appreciated _________________ Cheers, Sean 'you can't brake while in the air!'
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Dave F Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 255 Location: Darlington	Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Sean, on my Giant the cable has been pulled in and the stop adjusted so you can't change up to the bash ring - does this make sense?
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SeanO Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 538	Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Dave F wrote: Sean, on my Giant the cable has been pulled in and the stop adjusted so you can't change up to the bash ring - does this make sense? Not sure what you mean about pulling the cable in but I've adjusted the stop. I haven't fitted the chain yet so will have to see how it works out. Only other thing is that the space between the pivot and 36T ring is very narrow but making it wider would mean I'd have to put another spacer on the drive side of the HT 2 bottom bracket. The bb shell on the 5 is 73mm so following Shimano's instructions it should have only 1 spacer anyway. If I put more in I'd risk upsetting the chainline I think. _________________ Cheers, Sean 'you can't brake while in the air!'
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mr-marty-martin Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 1944 Location: co Durham	Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: on the subject of gears have you seen this system on the new diamondback. the g-boxx 2 gear box http://www.g-boxx.com/e-g-boxx2.html _________________ if anyone wants my msn addy just ask latest cyclo cross report now on the race report section!!!!!!! http://www.mtbe.co.uk/cyclo-cross-north-of-england-championships-t1827 .html http://www.mtbe.co.uk/post15951.html#15951 opinions are like @rseholes, everybody has one! this, is mine!
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SeanO Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 538	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Attached the chain today and found that it fouls the frame! Pic of the chain in granny ring: Pic of the chain shifting to 36T middle position on spider: Help! _________________ Cheers, Sean 'you can't brake while in the air!'
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Dave F Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 255 Location: Darlington	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Sean, you must need an extra spacer on the bottom bracket - fitting the bash ring shouldn't affect where the chain sits - you must need two spacers on the chainring side and one on the left side.
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mr-marty-martin Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 1944 Location: co Durham	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: blimy didnt realise it was this hard to fit a bash gard _________________ if anyone wants my msn addy just ask latest cyclo cross report now on the race report section!!!!!!! http://www.mtbe.co.uk/cyclo-cross-north-of-england-championships-t1827 .html http://www.mtbe.co.uk/post15951.html#15951 opinions are like @rseholes, everybody has one! this, is mine!
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SeanO Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 538	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Thats what I thought Dave, but didnt want to effect the chainline too much. I'll give it a try. Do you think I should run the HT 2 bb as a 68mm instead of 73mm, ie with 3 spacers? mr-marty-martin wrote: blimy didnt realise it was this hard to fit a bash gard I don't think it usually is!! _________________ Cheers, Sean 'you can't brake while in the air!'
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tomlevell Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 141	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: I'm assuming you've stepped the chainring size up from 32 to 36 which is causing the problem. So if you can fit another spacer in that should sort it although it may affect your chainline enough to cause problems but you'll just have to try. You may have to sacrifice a few teeth and drop to a 34T chainring. As for mech position when I did do it I lowered the front mech as much as possible (for asthetics sake rather than operation) so that it cleared the bashguard and still shifted when needed. Bit of fiddling to make sure it works again.
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SeanO Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 538	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Just found this on the Orange website: Quote: The new Five model has been designed specifically around SPV/CVT shocks which have allowed us to use a lower more active pivot position. The new rear swingarm has been designed around a standard compact drive crankset i.e. 22/32/44 with a limit of a 32 tooth middle chainring, if you use a ring larger than this then it is possible it may touch the swingarm or catch as you downshift to the granny ring. Opps! Back to the drawing board I think. Anybody want to buy a bashring with 36T chainring? _________________ Cheers, Sean 'you can't brake while in the air!'
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Dave F Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 255 Location: Darlington	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: FOR SALE: eThirteen Bash Ring - never used (just thrown once at the garage wall) 22 / 36 Chainrings - not even seen any oil ps. Not suitable for Orange 5 What a pain in the arse mate - didn't think it would be so complicated
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matt.will Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 251	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: SeanO wrote: Anybody want to buy a bashring with 36T chainring Will the bash not fit the 32 and just ebay the 36 chainring?
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SeanO Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 538	Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Dave F wrote: FOR SALE: eThirteen Bash Ring - never used (just thrown once at the garage wall) 22 / 36 Chainrings - not even seen any oil ps. Not suitable for Orange 5 Dave F wrote: What a pain in the arse mate - didn't think it would be so complicated I wondered why I hadn't seen more Orange 5's with double & bash set-up. matt.will wrote: Will the bash not fit the 32 and just ebay the 36 chainring? Yes, but I think it'll look a bit poo. _________________ Cheers, Sean 'you can't brake while in the air!'
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SeanO Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 538	Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Tried again today to get the chainring to fit. It seems not to get caught if I put another spacer on the driveside of the HT 2 cup but this means that the 3 bottom gears on the cassette dont work very well - similar to trying to ride biggest ring at the front & biggest at the back in a 3 ring setup. It looks like it effects the chainline too much. What makes things more confusing is that the Orange 5 AM model comes with a 36T bigger ring and bashguard, so how do Orange manage this!?!? _________________ Cheers, Sean 'you can't brake while in the air!'
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Dave F Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 255 Location: Darlington	Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Why don't you give Orange a bell? Sure they'd be able to help
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